The faithful slave serpent speaks with forked tongue!
“Our primary purpose is not to convert,".....
"Our primary purpose is to........make disciples." (i.e. converts)
The Fall Guy
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Inside the JW HQ Warwick, NY
by baldeagle inhere is a short 2-minute video from fox 5 news reviewing the new jw hq in warwick, ny.. the first thing the jw spokesperson says is, “our primary purpose is not to convert, but to give people an opportunity to see what the bible has to say.”.
next the reporter says, “the new world headquarters, which opened last year, is home to about 800 jehovah's witnesses.”.
it seems to me that 800 is an extremely low number since the glory days in brooklyn.
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Inside the JW HQ Warwick, NY
by baldeagle inhere is a short 2-minute video from fox 5 news reviewing the new jw hq in warwick, ny.. the first thing the jw spokesperson says is, “our primary purpose is not to convert, but to give people an opportunity to see what the bible has to say.”.
next the reporter says, “the new world headquarters, which opened last year, is home to about 800 jehovah's witnesses.”.
it seems to me that 800 is an extremely low number since the glory days in brooklyn.
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The Fall Guy
“Our primary purpose is not to convert,"........... Liar, liar pants on fire!!!!!!!!!!!!
km 1/82 p. 2 Meetings to Help Us Make Disciples
"Our primary purpose is to teach the good news and make disciples." (i.e. convert)
The cult speaks out of both sides of the mouth - yet again .
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WTBTS and the CCJW ?
by Crazyguy inapparently they made this new corporation called the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses in the year 2001. this is the religious side of the cult and wtbts is the printing side and probably the money side.
since the gb think they are of the ccjw and have even stated their non affiliation with the wt is their a way that jws can use this to their advantage, maybe during a jc etc.?
i for example was baptized before 2000 so with the new corporation formed and the gb going to that side what could be argued during a jc?
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The Fall Guy
@ ZEB - it was Mr. Loesch.
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How many faithful old JW`s are now living in Christendoms retirement homes not being cared for by the religion they gave their life for.
by smiddy3 init must be pointed out in favour of christendoms religions that they do not discriminate against people regarding their religious beliefs.
many old age jehovah`s witnesses are residents of christendoms age care homes.. isn`t this a conunudrum ?
they, jw`s condemn christendom as part of the world empire of false religion and they cast off their old faithful members to their enemy christendom , to look after them without lifting a finger themselves.. in the meantime they are raking in millions of dollars $$$$ in selling off real estate properties in new york and elsewhere around the world.
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The Fall Guy
When I asked an elder in my old congregation who 'phoned me, "How's old Brother Abandoned getting on in the (worldly) nursing home?," he replied, "I don't know, but Brother Joe Publisher visits him every week."
Brother Joe Publisher visited all the elderly ones. Saved the elders from doing it! Nuff said about "shepherds."
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How To Fade Away Cleanly?
by SplaneThisToMe inthis is my first post and hopefully i can get some advice and input.
i have been actively involved with the organization for a little over 10 years now.
i began studying in high school, got baptized and my family fortunately did not.
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The Fall Guy
Welcome Splane. Your first post's title is non-applicable to your situation - considering what you've already said and done. You've already put the noose around your own neck, and now your executioners will be only too ready & willing to pull the trapdoor lever if you open your mouth to others. Having said that, the KH gossip-mill will be grinding away, and there's every chance that no JW's will want to talk to you now. Silence is golden - say no more.
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Fasten Your Seatbelts - The Crazy Has Started (Also, bring the Koolaid)
by berrygerry infrom facebook:just saw my jw mother after not seeing her for more than 2 years.
when i do see her, it is brief, she never asks about my life, doesn't ask about my 4 children her grandchildren, doesn't ask about my grandchildren...her great grandchildren, she doesn't ask about my other 2 brothers that she is also alienated from, she doesn't ask about my brothers family.
she doesn't talk about the jw/org either.
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The Fall Guy
@ Berrygerry - When I was an active JW, the one topic which always stimulated conversation between JW.'s and got them excited was speculation about the timing of the G.T/Armageddon.
When it comes to alleged "new lights," everyone here, active J.W.'s - including your mother, should never forget this "carved in stone" truth; if it doesn't appear in something printed by the WTBTS, then they didn't say it.
WiFiBandit will be the first to let you know what's coming - not your mother.
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November 13, 2017 TO ALL BOE IN THE US Re: Making the Best Use of Our Kingdom Halls
by wifibandit innovember 13, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: making the best use of our kingdom halls.
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The Fall Guy
Many thanks again WiFi, to you and your sources.
My instincts are telling me that the sheep in the USA (followed very quickly by every other congregation worldwide) are being primed for the consolidation/merging "master plan" (TM) going into warp-drive in 2018/19.
The "friends" in the U.S. think nothing of driving long distances (in comparison to UK JW's) and they pay a lot less for their petrol/diesel. If U.S. Witnesses get upset, I can't wait to see how the U.K./European sheeple will respond.
The org's chariot continues its road-killing programme.
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Checking Up On Disfellowshipped Ones
by Boredposter inif my memory serves me right in the 80's there was an effort to call on those who were disfellowshipped.
elders would seek them out (or we're supposed to) to see if there was anything they could do to help them come back.
it seemed like a good idea at the time to me.
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The Fall Guy
Maybe a number of faithful publishers were troubled by the blatant "one law for some and another law for others" and were asking the org a very troublesome question:
"The organization forbids publishers from trying to encourage their disfellowshipped loved one to return to the org, but encourages elders to do so. Where is the scriptural guidance/principle for this contradiction?"
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Carl Olof Jonsson correspondence with Watchtower
by Anony Mous inin case any collectors don't have these yet:.
correspondence 1977-1980 between carl olof jonsson and the watchtower society.
http://kristenfrihet.se/english/corr.htm.
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The Fall Guy
Basically the WTBTS's response was, "Very interesting brother, but keep your mouth shut, and do not discuss this with any other J.W.'s Just wait on Jehovah/His organization to come up with any new information. We're in charge of divulging what is"truth" - not you!"
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...and so the shunning begins
by Phoebe ini am now officially 'inactive' so am no longer chased by an elder a for a report.
the congregation i belonged to never had much time for me anyway, i said once i could drop down dead in the k.hall and no one would notice.
so i never expected anyone to be particularly bothered that i wasn't there and they aren't.
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The Fall Guy
So sorry that you're hurting because of the shunning. That's what the shunning's supposed to do - hurt you so much that you want to crawl back on your hands and knees and beg the shunners to forgive you.
We should mourn that our blinded shunners are unable/unwilling to assimilate any of the information which exposes their beloved organization, and not that we've lost such cult-directed friendships. It hurts to know that sincere love and compassion can be repaid in such an inhuman way. I hope you make new and better friends soon.